aspro said:

It's one of the worst parts of this generation.  Games that show great craft but have no sense of mastery.  Like they are made by very talented apprentices, but there is no master to show them how to turn all the well made components into something finished.

Dvader said:

I would take LBP2 cause the possibilities are endless, that is not to say its better than Mario.

 I'm over UCC in games. I see videos and think "Cool!" yet never can be bothered to make my own, or even download other peoples. It's enough to play what the developers have already made. 

Dvader said:

There is no downloading in LBP, you have instant access to all 2 million + user levels.

That word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Other games TM scores

Red Dead Redemption - 9 (They say it's very very GTAIV indeed, the structure and writing being incredibly similar. The area is much bigger, beautiful, and there's lots of Cowboy stuff to do - rustling, hunting, gambling. It has a "stark beauty and compelling narrative" apparently.)

WarioWare DIY - 9
Espgaluda II - 9
Shin Megami Tensai: Strange Journey - 8
£D Dot Game Heroes - 8

Lost Planet 2 - 7 (They slam the single player. "There isn't actually really a single player mode," they say, stating that the AI is so bad you can barely play it alone. Multiplayer is much better apparently. Controls are apparently awful, and the whole thing is more Monster Hunter than Lost Planet 1.)

Split/Second - 8 (Incredibly balanced, frenzied, one of the most exhilarating racing games since Burnout 3: the "God Of War 3 of racers, exaggerated, over the top and furious, interweaving scripted moments with dynamic play.")

Again - 4
2010 FIFA World Cup - 6
Skate 3 - 8
Dead Or Alive Paradise - 3
Alan Wake - 8
Th Whsipereed World - 6
Cave Story Wii - 9
Patchwork Heroes - 7
Nier - 7
Dead To Rights Retribution - 4

Monster Hunter Tri - 10 (It's one of the best online games fullstop, let alone on the Wii. Co-op makes it far far better, as it feels designed for it; it shows the rest of the world how co-op should be done. They argue a lot that it should be played online, as that's the only way to get the full experience of the game.)

gamingeek said:

Other games TM scores

Red Dead Redemption - 9 (They say it's very very GTAIV indeed, the structure and writing being incredibly similar. The area is much bigger, beautiful, and there's lots of Cowboy stuff to do - rustling, hunting, gambling. It has a "stark beauty and compelling narrative" apparently.)

Lost Planet 2 - 7 (They slam the single player. "There isn't actually really a single player mode," they say, stating that the AI is so bad you can barely play it alone. Multiplayer is much better apparently. Controls are apparently awful, and the whole thing is more Monster Hunter than Lost Planet 1.)

Split/Second - 8 (Incredibly balanced, frenzied, one of the most exhilarating racing games since Burnout 3: the "God Of War 3 of racers, exaggerated, over the top and furious, interweaving scripted moments with dynamic play.")

Man, Split Second and Red Dead is definitely becoming more appealing everytime I read reviews. Like I said before, I never bought a racing game at full price but I think I may do that with Split Second. Loved Pure! This looks better!

And Red Dead looks like the greatest western game ever made! Finally, huh? We never actually had a really good game set in the west yet! I'm talking about like GOTY quality!

I may get that as well.

And too bad Alan Wake isn't the revolution we all thought it'd be. Still looks good though.

And Lost Planet 2 is going to go down as the most disappointed game of this gen, even more than Too Human or any other disappointed. Kind of sucks. It just further proves that Japanese developers need to stay away from western styled shooters. Capcom should stick to what they do best.

Archangel3371 said:

Personally I think modern games are turning out to be just as truly great games as any other time prior, if not more so.

Oh yeah, I'm not arguing with that, but I'm saying that in this gen there are a lot more games that are technically great, but not great overall.  That doesn't mean that there are games that hit it right in both categories.

aspro said:

So I just heard that the Wii outsold the NES and the DS outsold the GB.  Does that include the GBA?  Or just the original GB through GB Color?

I thought the Wii passed the NES in sales a long time ago. Didn't the NES only sell around 40 million total?

Ravenprose said:

aspro said:

So I just heard that the Wii outsold the NES and the DS outsold the GB.  Does that include the GBA?  Or just the original GB through GB Color?

I thought the Wii passed the NES in sales a long time ago. Didn't the NES only sell around 40 million total?

NES was in the region of 64 million.  The SNES pushed around 50M, N64 had 32M, GameCube 23M.  GBA was somewhere between 75M-90M

ASK_Story said:

Man, Split Second and Red Dead is definitely becoming more appealing everytime I read reviews. Like I said before, I never bought a racing game at full price but I think I may do that with Split Second. Loved Pure! This looks better!

And Red Dead looks like the greatest western game ever made! Finally, huh? We never actually had a really good game set in the west yet! I'm talking about like GOTY quality!

I may get that as well.

And too bad Alan Wake isn't the revolution we all thought it'd be. Still looks good though.

And Lost Planet 2 is going to go down as the most disappointed game of this gen, even more than Too Human or any other disappointed. Kind of sucks. It just further proves that Japanese developers need to stay away from western styled shooters. Capcom should stick to what they do best.

 I'll playing Split Second and getting a copy of LP2 this week, so I can confirm if they're both  disappointing.

Yodariquo said:

That word, I don't think it means what you think it means.