Iga_Bobovic said:

Ron Paul is awesome

Ron Paul defends Wikileaks on House Floor

WikiLeaks release of classified information has generated a lot of attention in the past few weeks. The hysterical reaction makes one wonder if this is not an example of killing the messenger for the bad news. Despite what is claimed, the information that has been so far released, though classified, has caused no known harm to any individual, but it has caused plenty of embarrassment to our government. Losing our grip on our empire is not welcomed by the neoconservatives in charge.




          There is now more information confirming that Saudi Arabia is a principal supporter and financier of al Qaeda, and that this should set off alarm bells since we guarantee its Sharia-run government. This emphasizes even more the fact that no al Qaeda existed in Iraq before 9/11, and yet we went to war against Iraq based on the lie that it did. It has been charged by experts that Julian Assange, the internet publisher of this information, has committed a heinous crime, deserving prosecution for treason and execution, or even assassination.




          But should we not at least ask how the U.S. government should prosecute an Australian citizen for treason for publishing U.S. secret information that he did not steal? And if WikiLeaks is to be prosecuted for publishing classified documents, why shouldn't the Washington Post, the New York Times, and others also published these documents be prosecuted? Actually, some in Congress are threatening this as well.



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          The New York Times, as a results of a Supreme Court ruling, was not found guilty in 1971 for the publication of the Pentagon Papers. Daniel Ellsberg never served a day in prison for his role in obtaining these secret documents. The Pentagon Papers were also inserted into the Congressional record by Senator Mike Gravel, with no charges of any kind being made of breaking any national security laws. Yet the release of this classified information was considered illegal by many, and those who lied us into the Vietnam war, and argued for its prolongation were outraged. But the truth gained from the Pentagon Papers revealed that lies were told about the Gulf of Tonkin attack. which perpetuated a sad and tragic episode in our history.




          Just as with the Vietnam War, the Iraq War was based on lies. We were never threatened by weapons of mass destruction or al Qaeda in Iraq, though the attack on Iraq was based on this false information. Any information which challenges the official propaganda for the war in the Middle East is unwelcome by the administration and the supporters of these unnecessary wars. Few are interested in understanding the relationship of our foreign policy and our presence in the Middle East to the threat of terrorism. Revealing the real nature and goal of our presence in so many Muslim countries is a threat to our empire, and any revelation of this truth is highly resented by those in charge.




          Questions to consider:




          Number 1: Do the America People deserve know the truth regarding the ongoing wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen?




          Number 2: Could a larger question be how can an army private access so much secret information?




          Number 3: Why is the hostility mostly directed at Assange, the publisher, and not at our governments failure to protect classified information?




          Number 4: Are we getting our moneys worth of the 80 Billion dollars per year spent on intelligence gathering?




          Number 5: Which has resulted in the greatest number of deaths: lying us into war or Wikileaks revelations or the release of the Pentagon Papers?




          Number 6: If Assange can be convicted of a crime for publishing information that he did not steal, what does this say about the future of the first amendment and the independence of the internet?




          Number 7: Could it be that the real reason for the near universal attacks on Wikileaks is more about secretly maintaining a seriously flawed foreign policy of empire than it is about national security?




          Number 8: Is there not a huge difference between releasing secret information to help the enemy in a time of declared war, which is treason, and the releasing of information to expose our government lies that promote secret wars, death and corruption?




          Number 9: Was it not once considered patriotic to stand up to our government when it is wrong?




          Thomas Jefferson had it right when he advised 'Let the eyes of vigilance never be closed.' I yield back the balance of my time.

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I can't stand when people try to spin this. This is the reality of the Wikileaks situation.

Ron Paul can be a psycho at times but he nailed it with that speech. Not that I fully endorse wikileaks, just that he makes good points about people being more upset at Wikileaks than what is in them.

I have question about the donations wikileaks is getting, why do they need so much. The way some people are throwing many at wikileaks feels almost like a cult. Its a website, there are a million sites that work without a million donations, why is so much money needed and what is stopping Assange from getting rich on all of it. Isn't there an idea for an openleaks method where there is no site and the leaks go directly to news outlets, that requires no money, that sounds better. I have never seen so many people willing to donate to a website, donate to chairty , help some kids in Africa or something.

Dvader said:

Ron Paul can be a psycho at times but he nailed it with that speech. Not that I fully endorse wikileaks, just that he makes good points about people being more upset at Wikileaks than what is in them.

I have question about the donations wikileaks is getting, why do they need so much. The way some people are throwing many at wikileaks feels almost like a cult. Its a website, there are a million sites that work without a million donations, why is so much money needed and what is stopping Assange from getting rich on all of it. Isn't there an idea for an openleaks method where there is no site and the leaks go directly to news outlets, that requires no money, that sounds better. I have never seen so many people willing to donate to a website, donate to chairty , help some kids in Africa or something.

NintendoLife Fluidity review

Fluidity is easily one of the more original games on WiiWare and comes with hours of replay value, a slick physics engine and spot on controls. The huge 2D maps are full of secret areas and unlockable extras, and the pacing of the game keeps the action from ever becoming too repetitive or dull. What starts off as a simple tilting affair soon evolves into some of the most refined gameplay mechanics ever slapped onto the Wii Remote. From simply directing the flow of a stream of water you'll soon be blasting through doors as a block of ice, launching off spirngboards and zapping enemies with bolts of lighting from a raincloud. Fluidity may come with a steep asking price, but it's an experience that shouldn't be missed.

9/10

Sounds good.

Dvader said:

Ron Paul can be a psycho at times but he nailed it with that speech.

I heard that about Ron various times. What did he do to be called a psycho?

Dvader said:

what is stopping Assange from getting rich on all of it.

Jail for one.

Dvader said:

I have never seen so many people willing to donate to a website, donate to chairty , help some kids in Africa or something.

You might as well throw your money away. Most of these African nations are corrupt to the core. No money will reach the intended target. See how much money was raised in Haiti, most of it could not be spend.

2 morrow is Super Mario All-Stars Collection day!

Anyone else picking it up?

phantom_leo said:

Just a quick note: Fluidity on Wii-Ware is a great, great game; kinda along the lines of LocoRoco for the PSP.

...but playing it makes me constantly feel like I have to pee!

*Just thought you would all like to know that!*

i only played the demo but its a awesome game one of a kind, i'll have to get it when i get the points

Beaten. That 52 for the year. 17 Nintendo, 17 MS, 17 Sony 1 PC

ASK_Story said:

2 morrow is Super Mario All-Stars Collection day!

Anyone else picking it up?

it is preordered and paid off so i will be getting it tomorrow.

yay another spike award show thats was 2 hours of crap and celebrities then they thing the award show is for