ASK_Story said:

Steam, right? Which is why I love Steam with all those INSANE deals!

Too bad I don't have a rig capable enough to play the latest games.

darthhomer said:

Steam is rad, isn't it?

Speaking of which, hey Vader - you might want to log into your Steam or check your mail....

I got Darksiders on STEAM. The rest are on Amazon. They're doing a 75% off of ALL of their downloadable games!

I don't have a rig at all, it's all for future play. Will build one when Bulldozer specs are released.

I found this at Neogaf

Team Meat explains what went wrong with WiiWare's Super Meat Boy

If Super Meat Boy were to launch on WiiWare today, it would have no leaderboards, no Dark World levels and no support for downloadable additions. Boss fights and cutscenes would have no musical accompaniment, and only six music tracks (including just one for retro-themed levels) would be present. In the words of designer Edmund McMillen, it would be "a piece of shit version of Super Meat Boy."


When McMillen and programmer Tommy Refenes, who together form Team Meat, tested a version of their loopy platformer that could fit under the (previously disputed) 40MB file-size limit imposed by Nintendo's WiiWare service, they weren't satisfied with the compromises and decided to cancel it. "There is no way to avoid the fact that if we released a 40MB version of Super Meat Boy it would be a shit version of the game," McMillen told Joystiq. "It's a lose lose situation, but the fact of the matter is if we release a shitty game, we will have to live with that for the rest of our careers and have to cop to the fact that it is a shitty game."


Having grown in size and ambition since it was announced for WiiWare in early 2009, the Super Meat Boy of today would have to shed several features -- picked up on the way to Xbox Live Arcade, PC and Mac -- before it could circle back to Wii. Team Meat wasn't going to budge and, contrary to their early assumption, neither was Nintendo.


"We knew of the limits early on but overestimated our ability to get Nintendo to raise the file size," McMillen said. "It's lame that there is a 40MB cap on WiiWare games ... but it was our fault for blindly assuming this cap wasn't set in stone, and we are sorry for that." McMillen added that the team's finances would take a hit after the file-size showdown, but it wouldn't wither their support of Nintendo platforms in the future.


Team Meat has sought some breathing room on a Wii retail disc, but at least three publishers find third-party success stories a bit too rare. "We assumed our options would be good, and they might get better now that we have won some awards," McMillen said. "Right now we have talked to three larger publishers who have passed on the title because they believe Wii retail is a bad idea profit wise. Most places we have talked to believe that only Nintendo brand games sell well on their system and don't even understand why we want to release Wii retail." McMillen and Refenes will still stalk some smaller publishers, but have expressed concern over the attitudes they've encountered thus far.


There'll be plenty of attitude coming at them from disappointed day-one fans, but McMillen believes they'll understand or play the game on a different platform. And take this advice about assumptions: "Don't let this or the fact that SMB isnt releasing on PS3 or Wiiware fool you into thinking we don't [love] Sony or Nintendo, we love them all," he said. "If we had the ability the game would be released on ALL systems, but it just doesn't seem like that was in the cards this time."


When asked if Super Meat Boy's problematic squishing crisis could have been foreseen back in 2009, Edmund gave us this answer: "Probably, honestly we got so lost in making a cool game we totally forgot about how strict the limitations for the Wii were, we just wanted to make something huge and the game got a little out of control." It's that out-of-control nature -- regardless of WiiWare's limitations -- that has made Super Meat Boy a favorite among critics in 2010.

Also about Nintendo approaching Team Meat to make Super Meat Boy

Iga_Bobovic said:

If Super Meat Boy were to launch on WiiWare today, it would have no leaderboards, no Dark World levels and no support for downloadable additions. Boss fights and cutscenes would have no musical accompaniment, and only six music tracks (including just one for retro-themed levels) would be present. In the words of designer Edmund McMillen, it would be "a piece of shit version of Super Meat Boy.

That just sounds like their development priorities on Wii were weird. Midify every track it's possible to (everything without vocals) and it will obviously fit more content. Cave Story's music is brilliant with fitting mood for every scene, not to mention it has two soundtracks (and double the graphics), and they can only fit 6 tracks? Missing levels? So? Feel free to remove every level that isn't in the main story as long as they include support for custom content which was one of the very first things pimped, and is in the flash prequel, so that they can then release anything missing through that, much as if they were user generated levels, without any limit. They don't wanna? Fine, but all this "we did everything we could and it's all others' fault" is getting silly. Just shut up about it already. Also, gotta love how all publishers apparently went "Wii games don't sell" rather than "your little flash game would die a horrible death in anything retail" like all 600 million software sales are Nintendo titles while the other platforms constantly get indie 2D games published in retail. Not. Especially when Wii is a platform that constantly gets releases of crappy little games nobody knows by crappy little publishers nobody knows. Some people at least would know of this release. As for big publishers, they all release games on Wii, just mostly crappy games. It's not like they'd have to fund SMB with an AAA budget, it's all done, like Geometry Wars: Galaxies was for Sierra.

travo said:

Merry Christmas friends!! I'll definitely be here for a little bit on Christmas day.

Well Santa has officially arrived here for Baby J.  I can only imagine how difficult this will be when he gets older.  As a small present to my mother, I brought her Wii to my house and downloaded SMB and Pac Man for her.  Two games that she used to play with me when I was younger.

merry christmas to all even to those i may not fully get along with christmas is more then rivalries with videogames.

team meats reason seems more like a excuse  of" we tried and when we went over bored instead of changing are creative idea's we  said or well at least we tried and screw you"

You too, Tiny Tim Ask!

Merry Christmas guys!!!

darthhomer said:

Steam is rad, isn't it?

Speaking of which, hey Vader - you might want to log into your Steam or check your mail....

*Hugs* Thank you.

But now I feel bad I cant return the favor, one day you will have an unexpected gift.