Dvader said:

Robio is so hooked on nintendoland. that is all he plays. Zombiu time for me

Well it's not that I'm hooked on it, it's just that it's the only game I have for the Wii U. I had to cancel my preorders and move money I'd put down for them to afford the system. Fortunately I should be able to afford something else by tomorrow thanks to a small holiday bonus.  Plus my son is playing Nintendo Land a lot so that's inflating my play-time of it.

But yes I do enjoy the game. I need to a pick up a motion plus controller though. I'm a little bored with the single player games. Time to try out the multiiplayer ones.

Here's what was available for the Wii on the first Virtual Console day! Maybe we'll get something today too?

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Donkey Kong

Legend of Zelda

Mario Bros.

Pinball

Soccer

Solomon's Key

Wario's Woods

F-Zero

Sim City

Super Mario 64

Altered Beast

Sonic the Hedgehog

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Released two days after:

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Bomberman '93

Bonk's Adventure

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THQ has clarified comments made by one of the developers of upcoming first-person shooter Metro: Last Light about the Wii U CPU:

This week 4A Games' chief technical officer Oles Shishkovtsov told NowGamer: “[The] Wii U has a horrible, slow CPU” by way of explaining why a Wii U version of Metro wasn't in the works.



Yesterday Eurogamer spoke with THQ's Huw Beynon, who works full time as a representative of 4A Games and Metro, to expand on Shishkovtsov's comment.



“I think there was one comment made by Oles the programmer - the guy who built the engine,” he said.

“It's a very CPU intensive game. I think it's been verified by plenty of other sources, including your own Digital Foundry guys, that the CPU on Wii U on the face of it isn't as fast as some of the other consoles out there. Lots of developers are finding ways to get around that because of other interesting parts of the platform."



“I think that what frustrates me about the way the story's been spun out is that there's been no opportunity to say, 'Well, yes, on that one individual piece maybe it's not as... maybe his opinion is that it's not as easy for the way that the 4A engine's been built as is the others.



“What it doesn't go on to look at is to say that, you know, we could probably get around that. We could probably get Metro to run on an iPad if we wanted, or on pretty much anything. Just as in the same way that between PC and current console versions there are some compromises that need to be made in certain places and we strive to get the very best performance that we can from any platform we release on.



“But I understand that there's a real appetite in the media at the moment because the Wii U is a hot topic to spam some stories that are going to attract a lot of links if they present it in a certain way.”



So, will Metro: Last Light ever appear on Nintendo's first high definition home console?



“We looked at Wii U as a target platform,” Beynon said. "It's a really small studio. There were 50 for Metro 2033, there are 80 now. With Metro 2033 most of their experience was with the PC. The Xbox 360 was their first console version. We've now added PlayStation 3 to the mix.


“We genuinely looked at what it would take to bring the game to Wii U. It's certainly possible, and it's something we thought we'd like to do. The reality is that would mean a dedicated team, dedicated time and effort, and it would either result in a detriment to what we're trying to focus on, already adding a PlayStation 3 SKU, or we probably wouldn't be able to do the Wii U version the justice that we'd want.



“It would be a port or we wouldn't be able to get to grips with the system. That's really the essence of it. It's something we can potentially look at and return to later. Given the targets we've set for the game, it didn't make sense to proceed with it at this point.”

Basically confirms everything I was saying. 4A's engine is very CPU intensive code and would have to be significantly changed to assign tasks to other areas of Wii U like the General Purpose GPU, I/O and DSP as well as changing the in-order nature of the code to match Wii U's OoO CPU instruction set. As he says, "Lots of developers are finding ways to get around the CPU because of other interesting parts of the platform." He's referring to those features I mentioned along with others. As Sumo Digital said, developers with games that rely on high floating point number crunching calculations might run into problems on U. The question we need to answered is what exactly does the GPGPU of do, over and above what the regular normal GPUs do in other systems? I assume it has easier to implement effects and according to what we know about the PC version the card evolved from it should be able to handle AI too.

Also:

"CVG's coverage of the story had clarified that studios, such as Ubisoft Montpellier (Assassin's Creed 3) and Treyarch (Black Ops 2), appear to have successfully ported their high definition games to Nintendo's new system. The report added that THQ wants 4A to finish work on Metro Last Light before April due to assurances made to investors. This could be one of a number of reasons for why the studio is not focusing its resources on a Wii U port."

gamingeek said:

F***ing games journalists!

Eurogamer Epic Mickey 2 review said:

Now the series has gone multi-platform, and although we haven't been able to test the Wii version this time around, the PlayStation Move controls certainly suggest a degree of refinement as far as motion-sensor peripherals are concerned, with your paint-spraying ambitions battling the whims of the automatic camera far less regularly.

The best way to play the game, however, is probably with a standard 360 or PS3 controller, where paint and thinner are mapped to triggers, and the camera and paintbrush combo lurks down on the right thumbstick.



It's still a little slow to react at times, since you're moving the aiming reticule around for a bit before the viewpoint starts to actually shift, but it offers a lot more precision overall.

Time for the Macy's Parade. Happy Thanksgiving guys.

Just.......... wow.

This system is ridiculous. I've seen system launches before but it's like information overload there are so many quirks and weirdness and even little features discovered, technical hiccups etc. Gamepad can do 3D with glasses, background downloads affect performance. System does upscale Wii games etc.

Archangel3371 said:

What the hell? Thanksgiving was like a month ago. Late to the party much.

Yeah but this is the real Thanksgiving. That was just Canadian Thanksgiving. Like you guys have anything to be thankful about. You don't even have hockey this year.

Archangel3371 said:

I really feel for Peter Molyneux. The man clearly feels passionate for what does. I hope he can finally create something that fully encapsulates his vision one day. Cliff Bleszinski tweeted a funny comment a couple of days ago about how 22 Cans could also be called 11 Strippers.

I really think the best thing Molyneux could do for himself is shut the fuck up for 2 years, make a game, and then the day it's ready announce it to the world. I think a lot of his games would be better accepted if there were no expectations or promises. I think he'd find the process more relaxing too and maybe he'd stop crying.

Archangel3371 said:

I really feel for Peter Molyneux. The man clearly feels passionate for what does. I hope he can finally create something that fully encapsulates his vision one day.

I like that he cried, showed he's passionate. I think he's taken things to heart too much though. I don't see vindictive vehement criticism towards him, just saying that he's too enthusiastic.

Maybe there are some turds on the internet that have flogged him.