gamingeek said:

I'm amazed how they could keep all my save data and yet delete all my VC stuff.

It's proabbly a size thing. Save data is so tiny.

Iga_Bobovic said:

gamingeek said:

Nintendo not moving away from buttons on controllers, not interested in utilizing tablets





"Whenever we make a new game console, we've done it without throwing away buttons and the directional pad. The reason for that it's better to have them, because buttons and directional pads benefit gameplay response. Taking this into account, Nintendo isn't planning on completely ditching buttons, nor is Nintendo thinking of taking tablets as they are today and implementing them in a game console." - Satoru Iwata

So the screen rumour are fake?!

Why are you guys wasting your time on these rumors?

I wasn't saying Iwata's comment was a rumor. That was a statement of the general interest in rumors fo rthe next Nintendo console.

PS3 not doing well in Japan? Okay.

"If you managed to delay purchasing Valve's gooey, robot-filled puzzler, Portal 2, your patience is about to be rewarded: Two major retailers are significantly cutting the price of the game this weekend. According to the Kmart Gamer Facebook page, the title will be marked down to $34.99 on 360 and PS3 starting May 1 -- an offer that will be running for an undisclosed period of time.


A tipster also sent in an unreleased GameStop circular, revealing that stores will have the 360 and PS3 versions of Portal 2 on sale for a slightly-less-discounted $39.99, but will also have the PC version on sale for $29.99 on April 30. No matter how you slice it, the value-to-science ratio here is simply unbelievable."

aspro said:

PS3 not doing well in Japan? Okay.

No! This year PS3 is hovering around the 20,000 sold per week mark. Not that impressive. Doing well would be selling 60,000 a week. Heck in its prime DS and Wii were easily selling 100,000 a week. The PS3 has sold in Japan 6.5 millions units. Compared to the Wii's 11.5 million units. The PSP has sold 17.4 million units and the the DS 32.5 million units. Heck in its lifetime the PS2 sold 21.7 million units.

I am going to put it stronger. No matter what way you look at it. The PS3 is a complete and utter failure. When you look at the profit part (they lost all their money they made with the Ps2 and that is not counting their current fiasco), or when you look at the market share loss ( the PS2 is no PS3) and even when looking at the game library part (again the PS3 is no PS2).

dissection time

aspro said:

I'm not a fanboy, so when I say something like, "Sony is doing well in Japan" that's all I mean.  I'm not saying it's lifetime sales are going to trump Wii -- if that is your concern.

No, not my concern. I will state it again. Consoles are pretty much dead in Japan. That includes the Wii, which to my knowledge is a console.

aspro said:

Compared to the 360 and Wii -- yeah the PS3 is "going well in Japan".

Yeah, let's compare them to that. Of course if you compare it to the handhelds, it is not doing so well

aspro said:

Also, unlike a fanboy, my comments were not centered around the relative success of the PS3.  My larger comment, which you were unwilling or unable to comprehend was that Sony's strategy with the PS3 will be determined by what is happening in Japan, not the west.

Oh reaaaaalyyy? Number crunchig time. Did Sony recently said that they sold 50 million PS3 worldwide? Of course it is a shipped number, but let's me really mean. They sold 25 million worldwide. Now we know that thanks to Mediacreate that they sold 6.5 million in Japan. This mean that they sold 18.5 million in the rest of the world. That is more than twice the number they sold in Japan. So you are saying that they going to decide the strategy of the PS3 is going to be determined what is happening in Japan, while it is responsible for less than a third of total sales? And these numbers where chosen to work in your favour. Your logic where is it?

aspro said:

Am I calling you a fanboy troll?  Yes.

And goody. Fanboy of what. Cold hard facts and logic? If you mean that, than guilty as charged!

aspro said:

EDIT:  I never even said it was doing well.   You are expert at trolling.  I said, "PS3 is coming into it's stride". As in gaining momentum.

And I was saying sure it is hitting its stride, it used to crawl, know it is walking limp. In the grand scheme of this it is not doing well.

I denied being a fanboy.

Never denied being a troll. I am a troll and damn pround of it!

Troll POWERRRRRRRR

aspro said:

robio said:

edgecrusher said:

Is it safe to assume that Sony's PSN debacle means there will be no new console from them anytime soon? If they lose billions of dollars I can't see them developing PS4. Has PS3 even broken even yet? Bad news for them, good news for Microsoft and especially Nintendo's new machine.

I'd think it would be the opposite. After all the PR troubles they had with the start of the PS3's launch and now coupled with the PSN disaster I'd think they'd want to bury the names of these products as soon as possible and move onto something new and fresh. Even losing billions, they're going to have to consider if it's cheaper to keeping pushing the current products with their damaged reputations or launching something new.

As far as whether or not they've broken even on the PS3, I know that they at least break even or make a profit on each unit sold and have been doing so for over a year. They were losing money on PSN as of very recently though. So overall.... I have no idea.

Good analysis.

The only thing I'd throw in there is how this is going down in Japan -- which is where the PS3 is coming into it's stride.  If the Japanese have not written off Sony over this then I think they will continue on just fine (look at the PSP for example, which died here years ago but is the best selling console of 2010 in Japan and still the best selling console on a weekly basis).

Given what Japan is going through, I doubt they think PSN being down is a big deal (in the scheme of things).

In the west... yeah... Sony would want to turn the page on the PS3 as soon as possible.  Maybe try a third pillar strategy like Nintendo has in the past and release the PS4 but keep the PS3 in production and in the supply chain at a rweduced price.

Good points. I just can't see Sony pumping a few billion in R&D into a new machine right now, especially with that handheld coming. Moreover, what could the PS4 really offer above the PS3 besides slightly better graphics and a stable online infastructure? It would need some kind of reason to exist. The new Nintendo is a significant jump up for them....there's reason and need behind it.  I think the best thing Sony could do is drop the PS3 way down in price, and go out of their way to get major exclusive games on it like they used to with their older consoles.

i can't stand gamespot and the idots there

eggmiester said:

i can't stand gamespot and the idots there

Most people here are gamespot diaspora.  Several still post there.

i was mostly posting in the GGD or the DS forums.  Was a member for a good number of years so my account got to be a pretty high level, but I didn't post too much.  I haven't deleted my accounted but I haven't posted there since the exodus